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Hi Welby:
If they DO decide to do that, here are some thoughts...
-> Considering Roy's infamous YouTube video, I see Roy replacing Saddam as the Satan character's love interest
-> Then they can have Satan issue Jesus a rematch from the 1st season "Damien" episode, only this time he wants a tag team wrestling match-up with Roy as his team member
-> Don't ask me how storyline-wise, but I get teamed up with the Jesus character
-> The stakes are high...if Satan/Roy win, Roy's score gets re-instated and TG recognizes Dip Switch 4 as the official settings for MC. If Jesus/I win, then Satan must permanently take Seth and Ed to Hades
-> Walter gets the job of referee
-> Rpy protests that the dip switch on the event-clock is on the wrong setting and the second hand is moving too fast. Jesus AND Satan both let out an exasperated sigh, and then after much protest, the match begins
-> Remember the season 10 episode where Kyle has Mr Garrison's body-parts embedded in his knees and they explode when he lands attempting to dunk ? Well that happens to Roy's hips mid-match when he attempts a jump off the top rope
-> Jesus and I win the rematch
-> Roy screams "Let Me Finish" loudly but it's to late, the match is over
-> Satan honours the stakes and takes Seth and Ed with him (and Roy) back to Hades via a gaping hole that opened up in the middle of the arena
-> Roy makes a desperate attempt to grab his signed and certified documents on the ring announcer table but by mistake grabs the ring bell and just as he is sucked down into Hades he accidentally clocks Kenny in the head with the ring bell and Kenny dies
-> Kyle says "You know...I learned something today. It's not about winning or losing, or about what a dip switch setting is, it's about how you play the game"
Sound good ?
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« Reply #123 on: October 14, 2007, 06:26:21 PM » |
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Beat Kong with Steve Wiebe's Simple Diagramming of the Elevator Stage:  Above Illustration by Bruce Hutchinson Steve Wiebe Steps to solving the Third Elevator Stage and how to get past the spring on the elevator stage, From Wired.Com: 1. Ride the left elevator from bottom to top. Avoid the fireball. 2. Grab the right elevator from as high up as possible and "superjump" to the second highest floating ledge. 3. At the top, notice the two kinds of springs. The A springs hit to the left of Kong's left foot; everything else is a B spring. 4. On an A spring's final bounce, run to a safe haven under your Fay Wray. 5. When you see a B spring, make a dash for the ladder after its second bounce. 6. If the next spring is an A, head up the ladder. Wired.Com Original Text to be found at below link: http://howto.wired.com/wiredhowtos/index.cgi?page_name=beat_donkey_kong;action=display;category=PlayThe following TG link refers to leaching and the elevator stage: Saw King of Kong Last night!!! http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=71074&sid=bcb60a5af9871f6e118349294c9a5989Some bloggers comments on IMDB.COM about the King of Kong: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0923752/usercomments |
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« Reply #124 on: October 14, 2007, 08:14:56 PM » |
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What about Level 4?
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« Reply #125 on: October 15, 2007, 11:24:42 PM » |
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Hi Jimmy:
"Level 4" is in effect the 3rd elevator stage, the 1st being level 2, the second being level 3. It is just the way a lot of players refer to the elevator stage of maximum difficulty as being...the 3rd elevator stage or the "Level 4" elevator stage. However, most writings refer to this as the 3rd elevator stage. Eitehr is of course acceptable.
Only the clone game "Crazy Kong" has four different elevator stages. The first is level 1 which is very easy, the 2nd (level 2) only slightly harder. The third is level 3 and is actually not a cakewalk though still not as difficult as a standard DK 3rd elevator stage. In it, you are not as concerned with whether the spring bounces before or after DK's foot so much as how quickly you start moving right to the ladder after it bounces over you...do it too slowly and you get slammed. And that's as hard as they get in this game.
The fourth elevator stage, level 4, is a joke. The springs come in pairs. You will never, ever be able to make it up the ladder inbetween the pair of springs, of that I am fairly sure of. However, once the second spring passes you, it is relatively easy to make it up the ladder thereafter.
"Crazy Kong" is generally easier than DK and is a good challenge for any DK player as it is generally tougher to point-press in CK. Quite often running the stages is close to being the best way to go. There are also less boards per game...only four per level (1 of each type) that always come in the same sequence which follows. And yes, the game ends in a kill screen.
The barrel stages have several interesting quirks. For starters there are a few "gaps" in the walkways which you must jump over. I believe there are two. Second, the upper-left hammer is extraordinarily difficult to get/use. Third, as with the DK japan ROMset, you can put your hand on the top of a ladder and the barrels will roll over you, a great defensive move. Last but not least, a "warp" exists at the bottom left whereby you can jump over a disappearing barrel on the bottom right and go thru the floor of the screen, getting the full bonus point value left on the clock (approx 7K at later levels) for a safe finish and onto the elevator stage. One more note. While there are far fewer "wild barrels" in this game, I have found that they can often be thrown at sharper angles than in the standard DK game.
The conveyor belt stages come next. There are far fewer fireballs to deal with. The first conveyor belt is easy...all the rest that follow are not !! You see, while the enemies themselves (fireballs) are easy to deal with, the speed of the conveyor belt increases by a factor or maybe 2X, so you move FAST when on these belts.
The biggest concern is jumping towards the top ladders. You never truly know whether a pie cart will come out underneath you when you land. Jumping towards the ladder is a risky proposition and yet is the ONLY proposition to get to those ladders. The belts move far too fast for you to just walk there from the inside ladder. Last but not least, the spacing between the pie carts is of concern. It is not impossible to see a double pie cart come, meaning you absolutely cannot jump it.
The stage has two known tricks. One involves leaving the lower hammer in a certain spot so that even after you leave it the pie carts will still hit it and you register the points. Dwayne Richard knows how to do this one. Second is a trick I saw over 20 years ago involving a player creating an invisible ladder on the right side of the screen and they escaped to the top of the screen easily. This was done on either the mid-right ledge or the bottom right walkway/area, I cannot remember which.
The elevator stage is relatively easy, but that central fireball is pesky and moves fast. Also, the elevator ledges to jump on are not continuous and sometimes you must wait for the next "set" to arrive. The top-right leeching tactic does not exist. And finally, as I explained before, in this title, the 3rd elevator stage in level 3 is the hardest. The rest are all easy.
That leaves the rivet stage. I must admit that I do not know if the point-pressing tactic by DK's foot works in this version. The fireballs are just as unpredictable as they are in the arcade DK version and they often appear to "guard" the top right section of the game. Thus your real concern in "Crazy Kong" is extremely limited to the following...
-> Getting past the 3rd elevator screen (pretty easy)
-> Avoiding "wild barrels" in the 22 levels of the game (not as easy but do-able)
-> Avoiding getting screwed by "finicky fireballs" (harder)
-> Getting LUCKY (yes, I used caps intentionally) in the 22 conveyor belt stages (very difficult)
The world's best DK player can be dumbfounded by the unpredictability of the conveyor belt stages in this title. Otherwise, most players of this title will usually die in either the rivet stages or the conveyor belt stages, and usually not the barrel stages. An elevator stage death would only be due to carelessness, even moreso than with the classic DK arcade title.
Maybe "Barcade" will one day get the CK title so you can experience for yourself ? I hope so...I like to play both versions.
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« Reply #126 on: October 16, 2007, 10:22:41 PM » |
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First of all, a generic greeting; hi, my name is J.D. Lowe, and I'm an alcoholic.
There, that's out of the way.
Mark asked me to write up a review of sorts of the movie, since about 1 1/2 weeks ago, myself, Mark, and a few of my friends went to see it at a local theater. I haven't really had the time to write up the review that this deserves until now, so my apologies for the delay.
I've watched the movie quite a few times, truth be told. Watched it through certain means about 7 times before going to see it in the theater itself, and then watched it once with a group.
I think there's four perspectives when it comes to watching this movie.
1. Watching it by yourself as a movie
2. Watching it by yourself as a documentary
3. Watching it with a group as a movie
4. Watching it with a group as a documentary
1. Watching it by yourself as a movie
This movie is PHENOMENAL. There are not enough expletives in the English language to convey how wicked-awesome this movie is. The "characters" are so well drawn that it's hard not to hate the bad guy, love the good guy, and be in awe of everyone in between. The camera work is great, the sound quality is spot on, etc.!
2. Watching it by yourself as a documentary
This is the weak point. I've done a lot of research, both on here, on the KoK forums, on the TG site, and everywhere I can think of. I know that the filmmakers are saying that cameras don't lie, but it still seems that at points, it would be obvious to almost anyone (in my eyes, at least) that some editing happened in some shady corner. From the camera cuts to the misplacement of sentences/events, I was disappointed in the movie in this sense.
3. Watching it with a group as a movie
This was an awesome experience to do as a group. You get to hear how everyone's reaction is to the characters, and overall, just being with a group of like-minded game-player-thingy-thing-thing-thing-hyphen-things seems to make this a great thing to strive for. Half the fun is just stepping out afterward and talking about "Oh my God, did you see how *such and such* person acted in *such and such scene*?.......We're not that geeky, are we?"
4. Watching it with a group as a documentary
Believe it or not, just as awesome as perspective #3, simply because it invokes a discussion about what people thought about what really happened. When I saw it with Zach, Dan, Dennis, and Jen, they all knew that something MAY be up with the movie; however, when we all walked out, everyone had this general feeling that something was amiss, and it struck up many a great debate at the local Taco Bell afterwards.
Bonus stuffs
Couple of small little details that I haven't seen anyone point out just yet:
1. Steve Krogman is indeed in the movie. He is listed in the credits at the end. My personal theory is that he is the bald-ish gentleman shown in a plain room, who never has a name with him. I point this out simply because it was Krogman who got me into Twin Galaxies, and it was great to see him on screen.
2. I was mentioned in the movie, to a small degree! The list of referees on the screen show "Jeff" right next to Billy's name; considering it's alphabetical order, and considering there aren't any other "Jeff"'s reffing with TG, I'm assuming it's me, so I will be happy to take my 15 nanoseconds of fame!
3. After I saw the movie, Mark sold me Wiebe's 1.006M run (as well as a Star Wars DVD run, which was awesome). I wanted to watch it just to see an awesome performance (which it definitely was, no doubt about that). However, something caught my eye. In the movie, Steve says that he lasted 600k on his first man, with his child interrupting him around 650k. This is obviously a big point right there, and something that made everyone in the theater laugh. What threw me off, though, is that that is nowhere in the 1.006M run. In fact, he loses his first life at 465,900, on Level 11-5. I did some research; it seems that his child had interrupted his run during his 985,000 run, around what seems to be 600k or so. Mind you, this isn't a major point or anything, but it still irks me to have the wool pulled over my eyes.
Overall, though, it was a great experience; I got to fulfill a dream of mine by hanging out with one of the classic era gamers (seriously, the entire time, I was fanboy-ing it up, shaking and such), and there was a good movie enjoyed by all.
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« Reply #127 on: October 17, 2007, 09:35:28 AM » |
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Thanks for the review Jeff - I enjoyed reading that.
I'm taken aback at the splicing together of two runs into one (with the kid crying in the background) for the benefit of making the documentary more interesting. I wasn't aware this was the case.
There is clearly some skilled (and questionable) editing going on with this movie. Whcih is fine I guess, but does make you wonder what other footage has been hacked about for the benefit of telling a compelling story.
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« Reply #128 on: October 18, 2007, 09:16:08 AM » |
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Thanks for the kind words, Tony, much appreciated (for some reason, I keep thinking you are Tommi Tiihonen, and he is you...DARN YOU AND YOUR SIMILAR INITIALS)
Anywho, it's like I said, when it all boils down, the usage of his child in the movie like this, although not the end of the world, is still deplorable in one form or another.
However, in his own defense, he doesn't DIRECTLY say that it was his 1.006M run that Derek interrupted him in. He says that he was having "the game of his life", but never said it was that score.
Anything that's a half truth, though, just really sets me off.
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« Reply #129 on: October 18, 2007, 08:54:52 PM » |
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Hi Jeff/Tony:
You two just said something that made me think "Whoah...something is not right !!". Here's what I am now wondering.
That scene in the film when the kid is crying as Steve is going for the world record. I am now wondering if that is the very same segment that appeared on two of the tapes Steve sent to me, both of which had a kid crying and which I documented in my write-ups.
If the segment, verbiage/banter and score are a mathc, then I just had a revelation...Steve must have had the film crew filming him doing these scores at the SAME TIME that he was filming them to send to me for TG submision purposes.
Now, why is this significant ? Well for starters, Ed and Seth said in their interviews that they really only started filming after a specific point in time, or rather a specific event in this chain of events. If it turns out that this film was one in the same with what STeve sent to me, then that tells me that these guys were planning out KoK a L-O-N-G time before they actually said that they had the idea to do so, and that flies in the face of their interviews in which they explain exactly when they started conceiving the storyline.
And while such would not surprise me one bit, it may come as a shock to some of you who may have believed or trumpeted otherwise.
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« Reply #130 on: October 18, 2007, 10:31:23 PM » |
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Robert, I think you may be assuming a bit here, actually. It could have been the camera crew, I'll give you that, but it could also just be that they took the audio of the 985k run they sent you, and overlaid it on the 1M run. But hey, who knows, right?
An intriguing theory, though, I'll give you that much.
Actually, I just remembered, didn't Todd say something about how they were at times actually showing Steve's Pompano run during the 1M or something akin to that? That'd just be weird, having the kid crying from the 985k, and then the footage from somewhere nowhere near the garage.
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« Reply #131 on: October 18, 2007, 11:19:34 PM » |
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Hi Jeff:
I'll give you that possibility, but if I am actually correct, then that is a very telling observation that I made, and has some implications that I'd rather not spend the time typing out right now.
Dwayne currently has these tapes. If he makes the same observation and can connect the precise audio and they used an overlay, that's not kosher but okay. But if they DID, as I surmised, film Steve going way back when (i.e. same game, same crying tirade), then this will contradict what Seth/Ed stated many a time in interviews about precisely when they became involved in this storyline.
Let's see what happens from this observation.
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« Reply #132 on: October 21, 2007, 07:24:32 AM » |
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Ok, I saw kok yesterday. I didn't see anything underhanded, at least not on the films part. Everyone knows that editing must be done, and the odd soundbite being placed over footage isn't uncommon at all(if that really is the case). Robert doesn't come off as a bad guy; skeptical, but not bad. Billy does come off as quite arrogant, which he obviously is, or would speak for himself on public forums; fact. Does that make him a bad guy, no. Billy shouldn't be involved(nor should anyone) in the process, when it involves a score of his being challenged. He should recuse himself; kinda like a judge would if he's too close to a case. I'm surprised that no-one mentioned the public apology from Walter(and on behalf of TG staff) to Steve. I'll do a more detailed 'review' when I'm not so tired, but below are a list of points that stuck with me. Billy is best friends with a known cheater(back in the day, who openly admits it); big surprise the guy became a lawyer! Brien Kuh(pretty sure) stated at some point that he WAS trying to intimidate Steve during his FS play, being quite proud of the fact that he obviously doesn't respect others by NOT disturbing them DURING play. Pretty sure every gamer(especially Greg Bond  ) knows by now that it's ok to watch, but not TRY to distract. The 'don't want to spend much time' part: Steve obviously does greet Bill as he walks by during Steve's game, but Billy doesn't reply(rude, but hey, he's a gamer too). The statement does follow logically, that Bill DID say it at that point(though probably not realizing that he was recorded), given the look/attitude by not simply saying, "Hi, Steve." MDA actually appears less geeky than I expected, though Adam seemed more geeky(no offense Adam), than he did when I met him. Such is the fate of nice guys. The film does NOT come off to me as being slanted against TG completely, but the parts that were are actually spot on accurate. It was rude and quite unfair to ruin Steve's trip by the tape being played, excluding him from viewing. Billy can get a play by play of Steve's game, but Steve (a gamer like us, who took the time to attend FS) was excluded...unfair...fact. A fact that Brien(?) took great pleasure in conveying to Steve. Steve was treated unfairly by TG and it's staff; fact. Walter acknowledged this in his apology. The 'break in': I don't think that is completely the case, but I do believe that it would be common sense to wait for someone to be home, before snooping. Just because the mother in law(?) let them in before he got home, does not make it ok to snoop around and read the labels on the boxes in the garage. Hanging out and playing the game(s) while they waited is acceptible, but I'd be a little put out over the box snooping. Given the adversarial nature of their visit(Dwayne and Brien(?)), the only really proper move would have been to wait for Steve, before going in. Roy finally got his movie moment, that he has longed for for 20+ years. Even his comments, as far as kok, were pretty mild...and truthful. The only person in the whole show who really comes off as a bad guy is Brien...just because of the obvious pleasure he got from dissing Steve. Steve comes off as a very real(but fragile) person and does seem honest and forthright. He bent over backwards to prove himself, but TG bent him over the other way; at least initially, just like Tim S, who was the 2nd to reach the dk killscreen. Kok is boring and highly overrated. I can understand those that are in it feeling differently, but really, this film isn't for me(or 99.99% of the Earth's population). I can't understand why any theatre would run it??? Like I said, I'm tired and cranky after driving 600ish miles. I may review it more later, but more likely, I will just respond to comments that will inevitably be made about my above statements. Keep in mind everyone, it's just a movie about a game that I detest. Everything has room for improvement; me, TG and the world. PS: I'd like to see Shawn, Jason or Anna Cram reach the killscreen and take the record. I'm actually surprised one of them hasn't done it already. How about it guys? I believe you can do it! I'm not sure if they still read these forums, so somebody pass it along to them. |
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« Reply #133 on: October 21, 2007, 08:01:17 AM » |
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Mark:
As I was the sole TG referee in charge of the arcade platform during Steve's "bad treatment by TG", please explain how I personally treated Steve considering all of the following that was done...
-> I personally watched and verified the 947K score and wrote an article that brought great visbility to STeve while highlighting his achievement. The article appeared on CNN.com and USAToday.com as well, and according to TG WebTrends software was viewed by approx 40.5M people once the article was SlashDotted
-> I personally watched and verified the 1.004M DKJr score and wrote/posted the accompanying article celebrating his achiebement
-> I personally watched and verified the 985K tapes score. The article was never posted though as the announcement of the 999K came shortly thereafter and the 985K tape was in the process of being cross-verified due to it's prominence. The article itself is available upon request from anyone who sends me an E-MAIL and will come in zipped format
-> I personally watched and verified the 999.5K submission but never wrote an article as the 1.006M was submitted within days of that
-> I personally watched/Verified the 1.006M submission and wrote a MASSIVE 30 page article including accompanying EXCEL comparative data schedules celebrating both Steve's achievemnt and that of Bill Mitchell's also 1M game. The article was never published, though, as news of the DDK boardset purchases and ownership/usage by Steve came into light
-> I personally offered PUBLICLY to fly out to Steve Wiebe's home at my OWN PERSONAL EXPENSE, along with a TG-approved DK boardset that Steve could keep as a GIFT, and offered to watch Steve play as many times as he wanted to throughout the entire day, all at my own personal time and expense. The offer was made during the Aug-Nov/04 period on the old Funspoot site which Steve frequented, and he acknowledged that request but chose never to accept. All of this is contaiend within Archive.org via the wayback machine in the FS Fall-Winter 2004 forum archives
-> I personally never accused Steve Wiebe of cheating on the TG website or elsewhere, even to this day
-> I eventually received 8/29/06 his 1.047M tape, watched it but could not verify because Steve willfully and intentionally botched the transitional recording continuity at two key moments in the tape, and from the verification date of approx 9/05/06-9/10/06 thru my departire 12/19/06, the score was never ratified due to technical grounds. I am ON RECORD as stating that while I thought the performance itself was "solid" that the technical grounds prohibitted me from ratifying the score, and this was a FAIR DECISION according to TG policy on taped score submissions at the time
Walter and his staff after my departure opted to accept Steve's score. I will not comment now on that decision to do so.
During my tenure, all articles written by me about Steve and his scores were fair, accurate and celebrated his achievements wil great splendor. My offer to fly out at my own expense to Steve with a free boardset was never, ever offered to any other gamer in TG history...period. He declined that kind offer. His choice, not mine.
SO, Mark...how did I personally treat Steve "badly" during my tenure as a TG staff member ? I am dying to know.
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« Reply #134 on: October 21, 2007, 08:11:37 AM » |
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Hi Mark:
The moment where Brian Kuh was playing the Bill performance while Steve was trying to play DK that should have been handled vastly different, and in fact should not have been handled at FS at all but rather should have been done in the cabins.
Initially, Bill did not know that Steve was arriving. That "phone call" to his voice message was concocted for the cameras. Doris was given a tape to show part one in the cabin. That was the wrong tape. The real one arrived the next day as picked up by Greg "Awesome" Erway at the airport and showed in the cabins Thursday night, the first third of the tape, and Steve had not even arrived yet. No one knew that he would.
The second part was also shown in the cabins albeit in a different cabin...my own. Brian Kuh did not allow Steve to watch that leg of the tape as Steve showed up in my cabin that night. If it were up to me I would not have made that decision, but that is hindsight.
The final third was shown during the third day of the tourney. I was aghast when Brian, operating with an irrational exhuberance, attempted to place a TV set on top of the very machine that STeve was playing at. That was appaulingly in bad taste. And while he was shot down in his attempt to do so, still showing this at the same time that Steve was playing was also, in my opinion, in bad taste all around, and it should have been shown back in the cabins after hours if need be...AND Steve should have in hindsight been allowed to watch. But, hindsight is a wonderful thing as we all know, and what's done is done.
This was a Brian Kuh thing. Walter himself went along with it by including the speech on Bill's offer since Steve was there to give a $10K bonus to anyone who during the remainder of the tourney could break the score on that tape. Steve had already done the 985K by then, and personally, if I was Steve, I'd have walked roght then and there, but that's just me. It should be noted that a $1K offer was made to anyone who could do a "Perfect Pacman", and Donald Hayes fell short on that one, famously I might add as the aftermath of that attempt was captured in the KoK film, I believe.
In conclusion, this was a Brian and Bill thing and not a TG thing perse (spelling ?), but I'd still like to know how I personally showed Steve bad treatment based on my previous post in this thread. Thansk.
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