Pac Man Turbo WR is BLITZED !!

[U.K Jon]

Congratulations go to CAGDC member Eric Akesons (Eric98375) fantastic acheivement on Pac Man Turbo. 

http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=22&pi=2&gi=1755&vi=3366

Well done Eric, that's a terrific score and keep up the hard work. 

[ben]

Congrats Eric!  At least you don't have to play so damn long with the turbo version. 

Ben

[RTM]

Nice one, Eric !!

Robert

[SanTe]

I spoke with Eric on the phone last night and apparently he had his own Steve Wiebe-like disruption with his family at around 1.2M, but he recovered nicely. 

A thread on TG congratulating Eric degenerated into a pissing match over the rules, and it had the unfortunate effect of throwing water on Eric's achievement.  But rules are rules, and Eric followed them.  I don't care if this game is seen as easier by some players because you can outrun the ghosts; some things are harder as well, and getting to the kill on such a fast-paced game takes real skill and an extraordinary amount of concentration.  Bottom line for other Pac players: Eric has the first ever documented kill screen for Pac-Man Turbo, shattering the WR in the process.

For certain other Pac players, it is now time to put up or shut up.  If you play this variant, stop talking trash and get to work.  If you don't play Pac Turbo, then stop pissing on someone else's hard-earned accolades.  If you disagree with the rules because of inconsistency, etc., then that is another matter and you should petition TG directly to get the rule(s) changed rather than destroying a thread congratulating someone for following the current rules and winning.

That is all from me on this subject.  Congrats Eric.  You definitely earned it. 

[MDARULZ]

Big congrats, Eric !

Eric actually wrote me an e-mail less than a week ago, and noted that he was working on kill-screening this game.  I assume he reached the KS (based on the split fruit graphics shown below).  Maybe he'll fill in the game details, right here, including the aside that Chris mentions about the family disruption !

Here's a screenshot, taken after the end of the game:

[U.K Jon]

I spoke with Eric on the phone last night and apparently he had his own Steve Wiebe-like disruption with his family at around 1.2M, but he recovered nicely. 

A thread on TG congratulating Eric degenerated into a pissing match over the rules, and it had the unfortunate effect of throwing water on Eric's achievement.  But rules are rules, and Eric followed them.  I don't care if this game is seen as easier by some players because you can outrun the ghosts; some things are harder as well, and getting to the kill on such a fast-paced game takes real skill and an extraordinary amount of concentration.  Bottom line for other Pac players: Eric has the first ever documented kill screen for Pac-Man Turbo, shattering the WR in the process.

For certain other Pac players, it is now time to put up or shut up.  If you play this variant, stop talking trash and get to work.  If you don't play Pac Turbo, then stop pissing on someone else's hard-earned accolades.  If you disagree with the rules because of inconsistency, etc., then that is another matter and you should petition TG directly to get the rule(s) changed rather than destroying a thread congratulating someone for following the current rules and winning.

That is all from me on this subject.  Congrats Eric.  You definitely earned it. 

Well said Chris. 

[Berzerk1]

Great score Eric, that's a tough game to play.
Phil Y.

[Permafrostrick]

A thread on TG congratulating Eric degenerated into a pissing match over the rules, and it had the unfortunate effect of throwing water on Eric's achievement.  But rules are rules, and Eric followed them.

well, I was a big part of that so I am sorry...but want TG to stop changing rules midstream as they are doing nowadays.
Yes, Eric followed the rules he was told by TG.  However, maybe he has the first documented turbo play to the kill because he had 5+1.  All in the past used 3+1 and I wonder if they had 5+1 if any of them would have made it to the kill....something to think about there.

Again yes Eric's accomplishment is good.

For certain other Pac players, it is now time to put up or shut up.

working on something bigger right now...but maybe if I get that all setup and good to go then I will work on this.

I have had what I think can't remember actually) was a perfect game submitted to MARP where I stopped at 1 million.  This is publicly viewable.  I know it was a perfect eat to that point...but can't remember if I died before I killed it off.

then stop pissing on someone else's hard-earned accolades.

First, there is a second other entire thread congratulating Eric.  I figured one thread was enough.  In that second thread, there is nothing but congrats.

If you disagree with the rules because of inconsistency, etc., then that is another matter and you should petition TG directly to get the rule(s) changed rather than destroying a thread congratulating someone for following the current rules and winning.

it's not about that at all.  It's about current TG refs not even being aware of what the current rules are so are changing them and/or making them up as they go along.

It's why I called it a mess.

[dave88]

Right on Eric, those ghosts don't stand a chance 

[SanTe]

well, I was a big part of that so I am sorry...but want TG to stop changing rules midstream as they are doing nowadays.

On that I can agree with you.  It's unfortunate that so many tracks apparently have settings errors and this never got fixed.  The problem only compounds over time as more and more gamers set scores on the "wrong" settings.  Maybe that's why they haven't changed them.  Maybe they don't want to make the problem worse.  *shrug*

Yes, Eric followed the rules he was told by TG.  However, maybe he has the first documented turbo play to the kill because he had 5+1.  All in the past used 3+1 and I wonder if they had 5+1 if any of them would have made it to the kill....something to think about there.

Eric was so put off by that thread that he didn't bother to tell anybody, so I'll do it for him: he reached the kill with two men in reserve.  And the only reason he lost two men at 1.2M was due to the aforementioned family disruption, which apparently was a little more stressful than Wiebe's "Dad!... Wipe my butt!" moment.    So yes, he did effectively kill screen Pac-Man Turbo at 3+1.

it's not about that at all.  It's about current TG refs not even being aware of what the current rules are so are changing them and/or making them up as they go along.  It's why I called it a mess.

I can agree with you on that as well.  I will admit I didn't read all of that exchange because I'm tired of back-and-forth arguing that goes on for pages.  Take it to the refs, the Chief Ref if necessary.  That's what they're (supposed to be) there for.

That being said, it has been apparent to me lately that the refs are not communicating with each other very well.  Maybe they should have a conference call once a month or so and use a private email list for day-to-day issues.  But whatever the case, someone needs to lead the discussions and do so in such a way that conclusions are drawn and decisions are made.  I think the Chief Referee should do that, but I've never been a ref so I don't know what the TG structure looks like, only what Robert Mruczek has shared with us as a former staffer.  I'm sure it's changed a lot since they've had a complete turnover in staff in the past couple of years.

And I apologize to Eric if I shared more than he wished to have shared but I felt it was necessary to defend his accomplishment.  He definitely deserves this WR without a Roger Maris-like asterisk next to his name.

[Eric98375]

Hi all,

I'll KS this game with 1 man very soon.... then there will be nothing to say about anything, ever again.  I just need some time without two little girls running all over the place and screaming their heads off!!   

I drove from Tacoma to Grant's Pass, OR last night, picked up a couple of Nintendo cabs that I have been looking for for quite a while, and then drove back first thing this morning (770 mile round trip!).

Needless to say, I'm TIRED!   

I'll give you guys some play by play on my game sometime soon....

Thanks for the compliments.

-Eric

[Permafrostrick]

got no doubt eric can get there with 3+1.  I was commenting on others that maybe fell short at 3+1 that would have been the FIRST if they had 5+1.  we likely will never know there.

never knew turbo had an interest.  The regular speed masters always scoffed at the turbos.

as Rick Fothergill called turbo jrpac once..."in my "humble" opinion is the equivalent of hunting pigeons with a machine gun!"

that is a direct quote.  :D

Eric is the first to put the bar for turbo-pac up where it should be...reaching the kill.  I congratulated him on the TG forums for that and do so here as well.